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“The Best Amateur Go-Go Dancer Contest” – with Steve V Rodriguez from TAGS Podcast

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So, my American guests often talk about go-go dancing as though it’s this super common thing, and I always feel a bit too dumb to ask too many follow up questions. But, this week I put all of that aside and asked EVERY. SINGLE. DUMB question there is to ask about the art of go-go.

And I was in good hands because this week’s guest, Steve V Rodriguez from the Talk About Gay Sex podcast, used to be a go-go dancer in the 90s. We caught up to talk about N Touch, the San Franciscan bar where he first shaked his booty. A,nd along the way we talk about jockstraps vs thongs, playing it straight in Hollywood, and having sex with your favourite porn star….

Steve V Rodriquez 0:00
We go go dancing, it’s really can you dance and move around and take your clothes off and flirt a little bit, you can do it.

K Anderson 0:09
Hello, I am K Anderson and you are listening to lost spaces, the podcast that mourns the death of queer nightlife. Every episode I talk to a different person about a venue from their past, the memories that they created there, and the people that they used to know. Go go dancing. So oftentimes, when I have American guests, they talk about gogo dancing as though it’s this super common thing that you always see in gay bars. And I always feel kind of a little too dumb to ask too many follow up questions, lest I lead on that I have no idea what they’re talking about. But this week, I put all of that to one side and asked every single dumb question that I have ever had about the art of Gogo. And I was in good hands, because this week’s guest, Steve V Rodriguez from the talk about gay sex podcast, used to be a Go Go dancer in the 90s. We caught up to talk about the bar and touch which was in San Francisco and the very place where he first shaked his booty. I don’t know why I said birdie. Sorry. And along the way, we talk about jockstraps versus thongs playing it straight in Hollywood, and having sex with your favourite porn star.

Steve V Rodriquez 2:06
They were doing a Go Go dancing contest and amateur gogo dancing contest. And I just like

K Anderson 2:12
Tales of the City. Yes, very tails.

Steve V Rodriquez 2:16
Exactly, call me mouse. And I just had to do this contest. And as a former gymnast, I was used to competing. And back in high school I had done talent shows to music and incorporated gymnastics and dance. So when I saw the flyer, and because of course, there was no social media, the flyer for the best amateur gogo dancer contest at the end touch. My name was written all over it. I knew I had to go, I knew I was going to win. I don’t know why I knew I was going to win. But I just knew it. I had that sassy confidence. And I think I prepared a number to do you must know this group and people.

K Anderson 3:02
Wait, wait, was it moving on up?

Steve V Rodriquez 3:03
Yes, it was moving on. And that was the song of the time. And if you would imagine they had a little platform stage about maybe 12 inches off the ground in a corner. So smaller than a posted size stamp of a triangular stage. And they had a bass on it that was maybe three feet off the ground on the stage with a pole. So your job was to do whatever you want in the course of one song. Mine was of course moving on up I am people because it was the song I was wearing that out that CD just tells you about the time out. And I created a routine. Most of it was just off the cuff. I mean, I don’t think I had any major choreography. I knew I wanted to incorporate the pole dance to it, which I did. And I was swinging around and gyrating and took my short shorts off into a thong because in those days, I don’t think we wore jock straps as much as we wore thongs and I had one on and gyrate, gyrating my ass in. Lo and behold, I did so well I won the contest, which was a cash prize. I can’t remember what but I knew part of the prize was a bar tab for the night and for whatever reason, I was more excited about that because I knew that I could buy my friends drinks and didn’t make a lot of money back then. So I was super excited to win this contest.

K Anderson 4:43
So go go dancing. What am I asking? It’s it’s not something you learn about at school. So how did you know what gogo dancing even was when you sit saw this flyer?

Steve V Rodriquez 4:55
I think we at that point, I had gone enough to some bars in and around San Francisco to see gogo dancers. I remember distinctly going to, I think it was 1015 Folsom on Folsom Street. And it was the large Saturday night club at the time. And I remember looking up, and this is when they would put dancers on really high platforms light them up. And there was one dancer that I just called him, Thor, because he just had this huge chest and he moved around. Or actually, I think he looked like a Greek god to me, and I was so enamoured with him, I would go there every Saturday night to see Thor. And I loved the way he moved. He wasn’t the greatest dancer by any means. I think he just kind of moved side to side. But it was that beautiful chest and his sculpted face that got me every time. And I knew I could at the very least do that. But I knew I was a good dancer in general. So I thought with a little bit of gyrating and moving and playing to the audience and winking and nodding, I got this. Again, it’s I’ve later learned how to take good choreography from a good choreographer, which is much harder to learn that because you have to learn counting and everything associated with that, but no counting. No candy. Yeah, we go dancing, it’s really Kenyan dance and move around and take your clothes off and flirt a little bit you can do.

K Anderson 6:32
And you said that you wanted to incorporate the poll? Did you have a chance to practice with the poll? Or was it just like, I’m gonna fling myself at it and hope for the best?

Steve V Rodriquez 6:41
Yeah, I didn’t. And fortunately, it was a really low ceiling bar. So the platform was already on a platform of itself. This was three feet taller. So now we’re talking four feet, then the pole went to the ceiling, but in a low ceiling bar. So we’re not talking which I’ve seen more recently, real pole dancers, where they are upside down, releasing their arms using their legs to Okay, no, I would love to learn that just because I think it’s amazing and beautiful to watch. And I’m so awestruck whenever I see that. No, mine was swinging and floating around it and pulling myself away from the bar.

K Anderson 7:28
As I gyrated and slightly rubbing yourself up against Absolutely, yes, sliding up

Steve V Rodriquez 7:33
and down. I used it in every way possible that I thought I could without doing gymnastics on the bar, like I see today. But it was funny, it added, you know, what it did is it gave you a prop, that you could play around with flirty, wise, and added a little bit more dimension than just standing on a box.

K Anderson 7:55
And it’s something to hold on to as well, like, you know, when you’re nervous, like having something to something hold on this kind of comforting, right? Absolutely. And do you remember anything about the performance,

Steve V Rodriquez 8:08
I just remember moving around the stage a bunch and a small stage but really connecting with the people that were looking at me and for whatever reason, conjuring up that performance side in me, where you play to the audience, I think is really what I did. And you know, we do that now, in podcasting. I’m constantly talking to a co host, but I’m also aware of the, the audience, the potential audience that’s going to receive this. So although it’s me and I’m putting myself out there, I’m a little bit more amplified. I’m a little bit more out there. And that’s, I think, always been an innate part of who I am, is the ability to kind of put a larger self out there and in dancing, it’s easy to do when you have the right gear to if you’re in a scantily clad outfit. You know, you are

K Anderson 9:06
greased up a little greased up

Steve V Rodriquez 9:09
in gyrating and the music’s pounding and the lights are right, in all eyes are on you, then you’re going to play to that audience.

K Anderson 9:17
But that’s really interesting that you’ve compared it to podcasting. Do you feel like this is a performance?

Steve V Rodriquez 9:24
I don’t feel like it’s a performance as much as I am on a platform in a stage. So I probably think a little bit more on painting a picture versus when I’m just kicking it. Yeah, exactly.

K Anderson 9:45
Yeah, I think like, you know, I haven’t I have an experience of gogo dancing, but I have experience of dancing and trying to get people’s attention and to put on my peacock feathers. Now. What am I talking about? Anyway, showing up And yeah, I don’t think they’re the same. Just like because I feel like I’m hyper aware when I’m in those types of performances he dancing he luring strangers to their death vibe. I but with a podcast, I can kind of just, you know, start talking shit like I am right now. Yeah, I don’t know where I’m going with this

Steve V Rodriquez 10:27
No, no, but I hear what you’re saying there is a performance side in podcasting, but for the most part, it’s audio. And you’re not always out there. There’s another performance side where you put yourself out there where your whole body. I’m a former actor, a gymnast, and I thrive on really immersing myself the few times I did theatre in LA, I was nervous as hell, the first few times or really before every performance. But once it kicked in, and once we got going, I fed off of it. And when they say every performance isn’t the same, it really wasn’t. And that’s what made it exciting. Same with a lot of any kind of time I put myself out there, we’ve done live podcasts in bars, and I love that energy. And I think I’m looking for something next to kind of take the show on the road, or some sort of performance based that gets all of us our whole body into it.

K Anderson 11:32
Yeah, and I mean, having having just said everything that I’ve said, I feel as though it’s only in the last few years that I’ve realised that really, everything is a performance.

Steve V Rodriquez 11:44
Yes, we’re always performing. And I don’t

K Anderson 11:47
think I was ever really aware of that before. I like how you’re not trying to impress people, but you’re trying to imprint a certain version of yourself on everyone at all times. Or at least, you should be because they’re judging you.

Steve V Rodriquez 12:04
Yeah, and you know, I was just talking about this on my show yesterday, one of the things I’ve been doing lately is setting a daily intention, I’ve gotten into meditating every morning for 10 minutes. And one of the intentions i set every morning is to be in the moment. And the other one is to connect with those I come in contact with. And I cannot tell you since I’ve been doing that, how effective that has been, where I see it. And it doesn’t necessarily mean connecting with only those I want to connect with, it’s calmed me down for say, the person in the grocery store that might be cutting me off or pushing their cart and back on me that I normally would have wanted to snap or get irate over, it’s really relaxed me a lot more. And it’s helped me just connect with those everybody. You know, in London, in New York, we live in small confined areas, and you have to learn to deal with people. Well, setting that intention every day has got me to it might be performance, but it’s really me that is connecting with everybody that I truly come in contact with. And it’s made daily living so much more enjoyable, I have to say.

K Anderson 13:23
And so is it just that you’re trying to be more present, or trying to be more compassionate or some other

Steve V Rodriquez 13:32
present instead of rushing and thinking what is next, being in the moment enjoying those moments and connecting with those that come in contact and really finding the joy? With most I would say individual contact? Well, it’s like a crazy. There’s always somebody out there but making those more finite moments enjoyable. And I think as a whole, it makes your whole day that much more dare I use the word effervescence in many ways, and happier.

K Anderson 14:08
I’m not sure if I can handle effervescence every day. There is a slow

Unknown Speaker 14:13
bubble of ever.

K Anderson 14:17
And so talk to me about your relationship with acting. I’m going to generalise grossly right now and ask whether you’re one of two types of actors. And I recognise that that’s completely unfair, but go with me on this. So there are some people who are just kind of born show offs and like the attention all the time and then there are some people who don’t, but still really enjoy acting and still really enjoy kind of channelling their energy through that way. Which are you

Steve V Rodriquez 14:48
the ladder for sure. In fact, I’m very quiet and take a minute to get my conversation going and back to that intention setting it’s helped me relax little bit. So I don’t have such anxiety when I walk into a group of friends that I don’t really know, or friends of friends. And I love the whole process that goes into an acting moment of performance, a podcast. So I feel if I do all the work, if it’s rehearsal, if it’s production, getting our podcast ready, whatever that is, if I do the proper work ahead of time, I feel confident, and then I can release in knowing that I’ve done all the work, and now I can have fun and perform. But I know I’m not somebody that is constantly seeking attention all the time. In fact, I shy away from it.

K Anderson 15:43
So okay, so let’s just put a pin in the question that I asked. And I want to follow up on anything that you said about going to see groups of friends or people that you don’t know that well. Do you prepare for that? Is that what you’re saying?

Steve V Rodriquez 15:57
I used to have to prepare for it so much more. And I hate that I keep referring to this meditation that I keep doing.

K Anderson 16:03
You don’t live in LA. So it’s not that bad. Okay, good. Thank

Steve V Rodriquez 16:06
you. Yeah, I did. I did live there, though. Yeah, the former self. And I went and saw one of our CO hosts who moved away because of the pandemic. So he still does our show, but calls in and we went to Providence, Rhode Island. And I was meeting his friend, as well as a group of people that I had no idea what age group they were. And the old me, former CIO would have had a lot more anxiety and had to talk myself into right up into the moment of meeting these friends. I feel now that I’m much more relaxed, and I’m just going with the flow that when I met this group this past weekend, I was super comfortable. And in the moment, and funny. I was funny, Steve, I was storyteller. Steve, I was inquisitive, Steve, all the things that you would want to be. But it’s been a recent shift. I have to say that for sure. Yeah.

K Anderson 17:07
Yeah. What is it about groups of strangers?

Steve V Rodriquez 17:10
Yeah. How do you do with them?

K Anderson 17:13
I think I’m okay, if they are like absolute strangers, and I’m never like, I’m not connected to any of them in any way. If they like are friends of a friend, I think I’m more worried about letting that friend down or giving a bad impression that then has an impact on that friend. I’ve said friend a lot here. I hope you’re keeping up. Yeah, there is something about that. But yeah. People are confusing to me.

Steve V Rodriquez 17:43
Because they care can be Yes, absolutely.

K Anderson 17:45
But I guess yeah, that is one of the gifts of getting older is that you give less fucks?

Steve V Rodriquez 17:50
Absolutely. Yeah, definitely. That’s been the other thing too. I’m glad you brought that up. Absolutely.

K Anderson 17:56
Like I have a sense of humour. That doesn’t work with everyone. Always lots of times in my like 20s or early 30s, I guess where I would go and talk to groups of people or you know, just try and be myself and be like, hey, blah, blah, blah. I’m really funny. I’m really charming. And then every single joke that I made when like nowhere, and all I got was like blank stares. And I think from that I learned just to like, Just be quiet. Just don’t say anything. And then you’re not gonna get any of those blank stares. And now I kind of am at a point where I’m like, it’s really good news. If they don’t think you’re funny. And they stare at you blankly because you’ll know not to waste your time trying to win them over.

Steve V Rodriquez 18:44
You can they’re not your people. They’re not your tribe. Yeah. Because I’m yeah, you know,

K Anderson 18:48
I’m hilarious. I don’t know if you’ve noticed.

Steve V Rodriquez 18:52
I have noticed. Yeah.

K Anderson 18:55
There was opposed. No, no,

Steve V Rodriquez 18:57
very charming and very funny. Absolutely. You don’t have to say that. But it’s a great motto. Great motto to follow that if they are finding you funny while they’re just not your people. Yeah.

K Anderson 19:10
So so this acting thing. If we go back to that, because that’s that’s where we started. Is that the same? Then? I’m just applying directly to go go dancing? Was it the same thing that you would be maybe shy in a bar until you’ve got that thing on and you’ve jumped on the pole?

Steve V Rodriquez 19:30
Yeah, I would say in those early 20s. I was much more shy to go out although San Francisco is very small as cities go and once I got on the go go dancing syndicate circuit if you will. People started recognising you around and you’re that dancer in touch. You’re that dancer at this bar or that bar because once you got on the circuit, people would book you from In various bars and or clubs, even the big Saturday nightclubs, and it became kind of a weekly gig great moneymaker, and a lot of fun. But with that, people started to recognise me as that dancer that they saw around town. So when I would just go to hang out at a party, or find myself on an off day just at a bar, I would get recognised. And that really helped me come out of my shell, particularly in those early 90s. Because we’re talking, I’m 22 to 25 formative years as a former shy person, this really got me out of my shell, in a good way. I think it was really beneficial for me because otherwise, I think I would have shied and hidden behind a pillar or behind friends. And it was that dancing that I really learned, I have that knack for putting myself out there. And I’ve used it for acting, or maybe not so much acting because you’re more insular when you’re doing a acting part, but certainly for Theatre, where you really need to project and connect. And definitely all of the radio and podcasting stuff that I do now, which is more me, putting myself out there has been all stemmed from those early years. In San Francisco as a Go Go dancer,

K Anderson 21:31
you use the phrase before gogo syndicate. And I scribbled it down because I loved those words together. Tell me about the gogo syndicate. How many gogo dancers were on the scene? And like, what did it look like? What what’s it like a day in the life of a Go Go dancer,

Steve V Rodriquez 21:50
I can only speak for that era. And in that era in San Francisco in the early 90s, we would all take it really seriously, I think in a good way. We showed up on time, we had a series of three sets minimum that we would do per venue, and some would have you do 20 minutes, others bumped it up to 30 minutes in the larger dance clubs. Some of the bars were lower, the podium was lower, like the end touch and you made a lot of tips. So where the bar might pay you $75 So $25 a set, you were guaranteed that but it was all of the dollar bills and the tips or a heavy big spender. That would slip in a 10 or a 20. And you could do really well. The larger clubs were a scene it was Saturday night, it was large warehouse clubs. The podiums were huge blocks next to the speakers that you really had to hoist yourself up and climb up there. And you were unreachable. But you looked amazing. Just because the lights were shining on you. It was pounding music. It was Saturday night. You didn’t really make as much tips but it was really rewarding. And I used to get there early and go to the front bar and grab my Margarita by my favourite bartender and I had a couple of favourite bartenders, that new Margarita right Steve and of course I would get that make my way into the back dressing room, and really fraternise with all the other dancers and which was always a lot of fun. I wish there was more fun stories of sleeping around in the back. But there wasn’t back then I think we were all so serious. We had our roller bags with us focused on your career focused on the career at the moment. Yeah, and

K Anderson 23:52
so was there much competition between beggar town says,

Steve V Rodriquez 23:56
you know, we were all really nice to each other, I’d have to say but that means a little boy, I know. What I will say is the better the dancer you were you got a better spot and better money making dance areas. If you were a better dancer, or if you were like me that hired the dancers. Of course, I got the better spots. And so I think that’s really where the competition kind of comes in is like you really want to make money and you really want to be able to come out of there with a hefty load of cash. And that’s where the competition arises.

K Anderson 24:36
And there comes a time in every gogo dancers life where they decide to stop. What was that like for you? Was it just a moment where you were like, That’s it? I’m not doing it anymore, or did it just just tailed off?

Steve V Rodriquez 24:52
Well, twofold. I think. First of all, I had ambitions I was taking acting classes in San Francisco. ASCO, I fully was aware that I needed to be in Hollywood where all the auditions were going to be had. And I knew my direction was headed towards Southern California. And I also knew that once I got there, the management that I was getting set up with would not have me be a Go Go dancer, we’re talking the early 90s, where management even told me Butch it up. Being gay in Hollywood is acceptable today. But in the 90s, absolutely not. Certainly not as a Latino man. I was not going to be accepted with that. So I already knew that it would end once I moved and moved out to LA in 1998. But I have to say, despite the trajectory of where I was headed, my battery was wearing out on dancing, it was starting to become a little bit of a chore, and exhausting and not as fun as it was. Mind you. It was fun for so many years. I think it may be a good five years. But at the end of it, it was it was time I was not enjoying it, it was becoming a chore to get ready to go out to another bar or another club. And I think I was ready for a new experience.

K Anderson 26:21
And so like you quit when you move to LA or

Steve V Rodriquez 26:26
Yes, I quit. Absolutely. Because once I moved to LA, I didn’t even go out anymore in LA. I was with a manager that was so strict on wanting me to not be gay, that we would go have dinner at six o’clock at these restaurants and I would hang out with him I would go to bed. I was like, Who am I now? Totally changed. I was in acting classes and didn’t really go out. I went out later on mid early 2000s. I started going back out again. And once I moved out of acting per se. I started well, I’m in here in LA, I should really be going out. And this is my early 30s. So I made up for last time, don’t worry. But is this the study phase we were talking about? This was the beginning of the study phase for sure. In LA that I definitely carried over into New York once I finally moved here. So absolutely. I did make up for a lot of last time

K Anderson 27:30
you had dinner with your manager every night, or was that just an example?

Steve V Rodriquez 27:34
Almost every night and he was obnoxious and yeah, it was yeah, it was not a good situation. And in the end, and we parted ways, because he definitely had as much as he didn’t want me to be gay or show it. He was also gay himself and coming on to me as just a gay man. And it was messed with my mind back then for sure.

K Anderson 27:59
Did he at least pay for dinner?

Steve V Rodriquez 28:01
He did. Absolutely. Yeah. I because I had no money. I mean, a poor broke actor who was no longer dancing. didn’t have those tips. Absolutely. He did. And thank goodness. Yeah. So I got a couple. I got some nice meals out

K Anderson 28:15
of it. You’ve got it. You’ve got to find the silver lining.

Steve V Rodriquez 28:17
Yes, absolutely.

K Anderson 28:20
I’m so I’m aware. We haven’t really talked to that much about touch. And I want to emphasise that And was there anything else that you wanted to say?

Steve V Rodriquez 28:30
You know, the only other thing that I had a memory of is right before I moved to LA and I was winding down my dancing. I remember, there was a porn star that was going to be performing. They’re doing almost kind of like the set that I did when I was trying out. And I knew this Go Go dancer, because I had one of my first sexual experiences with him. So cut to the early 1991 I believe there was an adult bookstore in Nob Hill no longer around called Nob Hill cinema. And I remember venturing out driving over there parking my dad’s truck and going into this adult bookstore. And it was the typical style of theatre seating where they showed porn movies. And instead of a porn movie, they would have performers get on stage and go go dance but naked, but the one that was up there was this porn star who went by the name of Chris Stone. You can look him up. There’s some pictures of him. He was I believe Costa Rican, very sexy man was dancing and he was going around and I was enamoured by him but sobered the few people that were there. enamoured by him. And at the end of his performance. Somebody came on the loudspeaker and said, If you want to see more of Chris Stone, make your way to the back of the thing. either and we have a room there where you can see him up close and personal. Well, what I didn’t realise because of course I had to see him was he was standing in this contraption, almost like a bubble. He was dancing there and they had this glove that went inside that you could try him but but not with your hand, not with your grubby hands, right. But with this glove, you could feel him up. And I thought that was the strangest thing, but I had to do it. And he was talking to me through this bubble of plastic on the other side, and flirting with me. And he said, I get off in an hour. Why don’t you meet me in the alleyway? Do you have a car? And I said, Yes, I do. I met him in the alleyway he showed up because apparently he said dancers aren’t supposed to go home with any patrons. So I was so excited. I showed up on the dot when he told me to be by the back entrance of the NAM Hills cinema. He jumped into the car and said, Let’s go. And he said, Let’s go to market street. And I said, Where are we going? He says, we’re going to get condoms. Mind you. AIDS epidemic is in full effect. 1990. And we went into Safeway where we went to the back of the store and we got the largest condoms you could buy. He grabbed them. And I said, Oh, we’re not going to go pay for these at the cash register. You said yes, of course we are. What are you talking about? He said, I was so nervous. He had no problem bought the condoms. We got back in my truck, we drove back towards the NAM Hills cinema where we went to his hotel. And he was my first topping experience. In other words, I had never bought them to be formed. I was nervous as hell. But a porn star like Chris Stone taught me with condoms, how to bottom properly. And I want to say it was enjoyable, which it was more of the excitement of it all. But it was also the first time so it was also painful to and where does he come into the end touch you. Years later, before I was moving to LA, I saw he was going to be performing there. And I was so excited to bring my friends and see him. And in between his show you can go up to him and tip him. And once you know it, as I said, I met you a few years ago, and we had a grater. And he nodded. But I knew I was crushed because I knew he didn’t remember who I was. And it crushed me because but on the other hand, I also he doesn’t know it. But what he did for me was so monumental on a plethora of levels, not to mention safety first and foremost in the 90s using condoms. But he really had an impact on me. And I just was so enamoured by that story, that I could see him again. A little bummed that he didn’t remember me. But you can be more than a little bummed. I was a little bummed and crushed. These days. I can look back at it as it’s it was a great story, at least definitely the original meeting him and just how I met him.

K Anderson 33:19
And so if Chris Stone was here today, what would you say to him?

Steve V Rodriquez 33:24
You don’t know what you did for me. But you helped me bottom and I’m a power bottom today. And thank you very much, and for keeping me safe. These years later,

K Anderson 33:39
wait, hang on. Are you saying that you would not have been a power bottom were not for Krista.

Steve V Rodriquez 33:45
He was my first experience of that. And the first experience to teach you always remember never as good as the first time.

K Anderson 33:53
Oh, there are plenty of times better than the first time there are.

Steve V Rodriquez 33:59
I’m quoting my favourite singer shot day and one of her songs but they’re definitely I perfected it. And continue to revise it every time now. So yeah. always room for improvement.

K Anderson 34:11
Well, yeah, if you’re out there, Chris. Thank you. You. You set Steve on a long path of things in his backside. No, sorry. I didn’t know how to finish that sentence. But thank you, Chris. In most

Steve V Rodriquez 34:25
sexual journey. Absolutely.

K Anderson 34:30
And so then, if we go super cheesy, and think back to end touch. What did that venue teach you about yourself?

Steve V Rodriquez 34:43
Wow. So many things. I think it taught me it was really the performance side of me that came out it was the first go go dancing that set the tone. That really got me out of my shell is really probably It’s priceless, right? It’s why I’m able to do a lot of the things that I do today. Not really caring and caring for sure. But not caring what people think not over caring, not over caring. It taught me responsibility to show up on time and to, even though it’s go go dancing to take it seriously, and you have a job to do to your part of the entertainment for however many patrons show up tonight, and I principles that I take with me today for all the work that I do now. It taught me it just I can’t state it enough, it really took me out of my shell that I had been living under, and really gave me a voice in many ways.

K Anderson 35:49
And so if you could go back in time, and have a conversation with this, Steve, that was just about to perform at their Go Go dancer competition. What, if any advice would you give him

Steve V Rodriquez 36:05
to enjoy the moment that you are about to experience to connect with your audience, by all means, because that is really what is going to keep you fueled up and want to continue to give your best performance and give all of you in this one performance and enjoy it.

K Anderson 36:29
And oh, the other important question, Did you sing along with moving on up? Or does that kill

Steve V Rodriquez 36:36
Hey, you really can’t sing along. But I think when my back was to the audience, I was mouthing a couple because it’s such an infectious song. I can hear it right now in my head. In fact, I’m probably gonna have to play it. After the show.

K Anderson 36:52
I’ll do the sax solo.

Steve V Rodriquez 36:53
You do the say? I love it. Yeah, it’s one of those songs that Yeah, but in general, no, I don’t think we’re not drag queens. And so we’re not doing lip sync for your life. The pit crew?

K Anderson 37:07
Yeah, that’s annoying. Isn’t it? Like to keep your sex appeal? You have to kind of be mute.

Steve V Rodriquez 37:13
Correct? Yeah. Very annoying.

K Anderson 37:20
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